J.I. Packer Isn’t a Christian Hedonist. Here’s Why.

Why isn’t J.I. Packer a Christian hedonist?

Packer explains:

Recently the phrase ‘Christian hedonism’ has gained prominence as a tag for the truth that the God who promises his people joy and delight in their relationship with him, both here and hereafter, does in fact fulfill his promise here and now. [Here Packer footnotes John Piper’s watershed book Desiring God: Meditations of a Christian Hedonist]


…’Christian hedonism’ is not a good phrase for its purpose; for it seems to say that rating pleasure as life’s supreme value is something that Christianity itself teaches us to do, and that is not so. Biblical Christianity does not teach that any pleasure or good feelings, or any form of present ease and contentment, should be sought as life’s highest good.

What it teaches, rather, is that glorifying God by our worship and service is the true human goal, that rejoicing and delighting in God is central to worship, and that the firstfruits of our heritage of pleasures forevermore will be given us as we set ourselves to do this. But should we start to seek pleasure rather than God, we would be in danger in losing both.

It is apparent that this is what the exponents of Christian hedonism do themselves think; so my difficulty is limited to their choice of words.

J.I. PackerGod’s Plans for You, pp. 76-77. Reformatted for readability.

Bono, Tim Keller and John Piper for a Sit-Down Conversation? What Might Have Been

Several years ago I had a crazy idea.

I had tickets to U2’s upcoming concert in Minneapolis. Desiring God’s headquarters were 1.5 miles from the stadium where U2 was scheduled to perform. Bono had a history of partnering with well-known evangelicals, including Rick Warren. So would he be open to meeting with Tim Keller and John Piper for a sit-down conversation and be willing to have it captured on video?

There was only one way to find out.

After a bit of sleuthing, I directly corresponded with U2’s people at their modest Dublin office. No joke. They were interested in the possibility, but just wanted more information.

I then contacted Keller’s people. He was scheduled to be on a summer sabbatical. Crazy idea was officially nixed.

But I wondered: what would have happened with Bono, Keller and Piper in a moderated discussion?

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imgres-1We’ll never know. But it piques the imagination, no?